Armalite LPK (Armalite tactical two-stage trigger set) - Update

I don't remember if I bought this kit for any particular reason other than it was probably on sale and I couldn't resist a good deal.  I did a brief table top review of the kit then tucked the kit away into my spare parts bin for later use.  There are however way better, more in depth reviews of the kit here:

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/gear-review-armalite-2-stage-ar-trigger/

https://forum.308ar.com/topic/8135-armalite-2-stage-national-match-trigger-set/

The kit first ended up in my Mk12 Mod 1 Build.  I honestly didn't shoot my Mk12 Mod 1 build beyond test-firing it and shooting a few groups, probably less than 50 rounds of Hornady Steel Match.  There was one time I found a strange piece of metal in the shape of a "D" in the lower receiver, but it was such a strange thing to see and didn't seem to belong anywhere, I set it aside and eventually forgot about it (more on this later).

Eventually, the lower parts kit migrated over to my BCL102 where the kit saw a bit more use (because the 102 was non-restricted, and also because this rifle had so many bugs to work out).

I probably logged about 100 rounds through the 102, but twice at home under dry-fire conditions, I noticed the hammer pin walk out.  I guess I was lucky it didn't happen in the field.  When it happened the first time, I thought maybe it was a one-off.  The second time it happened, I wanted to blame BCL for lack of QC and maybe having enlarged hammer pin holes milled in their lower receivers.  To prevent the pins from walking out again in the BCL, I swapped over some anti-walk pins from another rifle, but while I had the rifle apart, I also decided to yank the Armalite trigger in favor of the Stag unit my buddy had laying around and wasn't using. (see previous post).

The Stag one felt smoother while the Armalite unit still felt a bit on the gritty side.  The Armalite unit also wasn't broken in yet, so the trigger weight was still pretty heavy (apparently it's supposed to settle down to a 5 lb 2nd stage trigger pull).  I measured the new Stag 10 trigger in my BCL and it broke at a nice 4.5lbs:

So now, I had this Armalite Tactical Two-Stage Trigger set laying around and decided that maybe I could use the thing in another rifle.  Which rifle do I have that I sort of shoot sometimes, but has a horrible trigger?  Instantly, I thought of my Bushmaster ACR.

Since I first got my ACR, I had never been completely satisfied with my ACR since I could never find a scope setup that I was really happy with, and part of the reason for that was because of the stupid charging handle, which function was often disrupted by various scope mounts.  For a while, I thought I either had to mount my scope way back, or get a cantilever mount, or get an aftermarket charging handle that sat a bit lower.

As you can see in this photo, the charging handle is angled slightly upwards so it really limited optic mounting choices.

Well, for years, my ACR just sat in my safe, seeing very little use because I just couldn't find the perfect mounting solution.  One night I was bored and snooping around online and discovered I could not only flip the charging handle to the other side (which didn't resolve the scope mount issue), but I could also run the thing inverted so that the handle sits lower.  As soon as I discovered this, my ACR became my new favorite rifle.  I threw my Eotech 512.A65 back on the rifle, along with my 3x magnifier and BUIS....all which I thought I had to ditch because the charging handle always hit the long 512 optic.  I almost sold the Eotech thinking that there was no rifle I wanted to use it on (most of my ARs are clone builds which don't call for this particular model and no, I don't have a Diemaco C8A2 clone).

Compared to the previous pic, you can see the charging handle inverted so it's now angled slightly downward, and completely clearing the Eotech.

Anyway, going off on a tangent here, but long story short, I had a new found interest in my ACR so I figured the thing deserves a better trigger.  Yes, I found the Armalite trigger gritty compared to the factory Stag Arms trigger, and yes, I hadn't even shot the Armalite trigger enough to "break it in" and let the weight settle down to 5 lbs, but it was probably still light years better than the craptastic factory Bushmaster "mil-spec" unit.

Before I yanked the factory Bushmaster unit, I tested the trigger pull and found it to be about 7.5lbs-ish.

I went on YouTube to learn how to take out the ACR trigger pack and it really wasn't that hard once you got into it.

First remove the lower receiver.  Inside the trigger pack there's a tab you have to pull upwards slightly, then flip the selector to the 6 o'clock position.

Flip the lower over and while pulling the same tab upwards, pop the right side of the ambi switch off.  You may need help from a flat-head screwdriver.

Flip it back to the other side and while maintaining upwards pull on the tab, wiggle the selector out.

Once the selector assembly is out, the whole trigger pack comes right out.

The Armalite hammer on the left and the factory Bushmaster ACR hammer on the right.

The Armalite hammer on the left now wearing the ACR hammer spring (the Bushmaster hammer on the right now has the Armalite hammer).  Notice in the ACR hammer spring on the left, there is a slight bend in the right leg.

The reason for the slight bend in the leg is because it sits inside this lever.  

The Armalite trigger on the left and the factory Bushmaster trigger on the right.  I've had the trigger set at the lightest setting (top tab) but since I've hardly used it, it supposedly isn't broken in yet. 

The roll pins which appear to be identical to standard AR15 trigger/hammer pins.  Anyway, I reinstalled everything and tested the Armalite trigger in the ACR:

WTF, 8 lbs???

It sometimes pulled at 7.5lbs but it wasn't always consistent (or maybe the way I was testing the weight with the scale wasn't correct).  Either way it was heavy AF and not any better than the factory Bushmaster unit, in fact, it was heavier.  The only difference was that it was now a two stage unit, and though the Armalite unit was still gritty, it was less gritty than the factory Bushmaster trigger.

  

The next day, I started reading other reviews on the Armalite trigger and read about how the Armalite trigger kit is designed and how the system retains the hammer pin.....suddenly my mind flashed back to this mysterious D-shaped ring I found in the lower receiver of my Mk12 one time.  I had no idea what it was or where it came from at the time and almost threw it out because it looked like the end of a spring, or some bent wire, but the trigger assembly in my Mk12 looked fine and nothing looked broken.  But because it had no business being inside my lower, I set it aside just in case and sort of forgot about it.  

Fast forward a few years and I finally realize what the thing was.  As you can see the little D-shaped metal ring was there when I unboxed the kit:

I thought it may not be an issue with the ACR because the trigger pack sits inside the ACR lower receiver and the hammer pin should be captured by the walls of the receiver, preventing the pin from walking out.

This however proved to be incorrect and as you can see, there is enough of a gap for the the hammer pin to slide out of position.  I tried to remember what I did with the thing and took a look at the state of my work bench:

It doesn't always look like this, however when it is in disarray, it's a complete shit-show.  I've cleaned it and it's gotten messy more times than I can count since I first found the thing in the bottom of my Mk12 lower, but I decided it couldn't hurt to look.

By some miracle however, after sitting on my desk for a few years, I was able to find the ring.  I was surprised I hadn't tucked it away in a zip-lock bag and file it away in my spare parts bin.  I guess I was deciding whether it was significant enough to keep it or toss it.  I think it may have even ended up in the garbage one time, but I must have fished it out just in case I would need it.  

Back onto the hammer it went.

So, now I had to make sure the D-ring stayed on the hammer while I mucked around with the hammer spring leg, the lever, all while trying to get the hammer pin in and past the D-ring.  

The hammer spring leg and where it's supposed to sit as you drop the hammer and lever back into the pack.

After a bit of work, I managed to get it all back together.  The hammer pin snaps into place and the D-ring locks it all in.  It's actually a pretty smart design, however when I first installed it, I didn't even notice it, nor did I read the installation instructions since I'd already done a few LPKs by that point.  I think Armalite should write in big bold words, highlighted in yellow that the installer should pay attention to this.  They should also include a few spare D-rings in case dumb-asses like me lose it.

Anyway, after getting the trigger pack back together, it was just a matter of throwing the thing back into the lower.  

Now my BCL should not have any reliability issues in terms of the charging handle, or the hammer pins, and my ACR now has more optics mounting options, as well as a slightly better trigger (less gritty, and potential to have a lighter pull after break-in.  This trigger better not stay 8 lbs or I'm going to be pissed.  I've been reading about a Tech Note (#14) from Armalite's website about tuning this trigger but most links seem to be dead, but I did find it here.

In the tech note, it says that it takes about 500 rounds of live fire or dry fire for it to break in.  There might be about 50 rounds on the trigger when it was in my Mk12, and about 100 rounds on the trigger from when it was in my BCL.  I guess I'll sit in front of the TV tonight and dry fire it another 350 times.  I wonder if the para-cord trick works in ACRs?

BCL factory 102 Charging Handle - what a POS

I've been using the factory BCL 102 charging handle for handful of range trips and it started to really crap out on me.  Actually, I realized it was crap when I first got it and noticed that BCL staked the charging handle roll pin, something I'd never seen before from any other manufacturer.

My buddy had a spare Stag 10 charging handle he had laying around and gave it to me, so I had a back up in case my charging handle crapped out.

BCL 102 charging handle on the left (with the PRI latch) and the factory Stag 10 charging handle on the right.  You can see the hole for the roll pin is quite large with the BCL unit, and this was not from wear and tear, it was already that big from the factory.  It may have actually been two holes on this side, which is probably why they staked it.  You can clearly see the higher quality of the Stag unit on the right.  One neat, clean hole.

It looks like they drilled the hole a bit too close to the edge of the material.  The Stag unit on the right did not require staking.

Anyway, the charging handle obviously didn't come with the PRI latch, but since I was doing a clone inspired build with my rifle, I swapped out the factory latch with a PRI unit.  When I installed the roll pin back in, it was sketchy at best, lol!

After the last range trip, I was cleaning my rifle and the latch on the charging handle started to come loose.  I wiggled it and the pin fell right out, lol!  

Before I swapped the latch over to the new handle however, I had to fit the charging handle to the BCL upper receiver.  God knows why BCL had to make their charging handle proprietary because Stag managed to get their rifle non-restricted without screwing around with the specs.  With the Stag 10s, you can basically use any large frame AR charging handle.

It took some massaging to get an aftermarket charging handle to fit the BCL upper receiver, but once I removed enough material to get it to fit, I swapped over the latch.

With the Stag 10 charging handle, there was no mess, the pin went in with a bit of resistance (as it should be), and no worry about the pin walking out.  *$%&#@ BCL/NEA, lol!

I also noticed that the hammer pin for the rifle would walk out once in a while....actually twice, during dry-firing while at home.  In my mind, I immediately blamed BCL, thinking they probably drilled the holes too big or something.  Anyway, while I was working on the rifle, I decided to use anti-walk pins from my Mk12 build over to this rifle.  I'd never had pins walk out on any of my other rifles, so I figured I wouldn't need them in my Mk12 (more on this in the next post).

I also had a spare Stag 10 two stage match trigger laying around so I decided to swap out the Armalite Tactical Two-Stage trigger set in favor for the Stag unit.  I found the Stag unit surprisingly smooth for a factory trigger, and the break was clean and crisp.  The Armalite unit, though better than a standard mil-spec trigger, was slightly gritty and had a bit of creep.  I understand these units require a bit of break-in, but I figured since I had the better trigger doing nothing, I may as well use it.

The factory Stag 10 trigger breaks cleanly at 4.5lbs.

Anyway charging handle is sorted and I don't need to worry about it, and it shouldn't have any more issues with the pins walking out.  The rifle should be a bit more reliable.  Now I just have to figure out which mags will feed reliably in my rifle.  It seems that some of the mags that work in my BCL don't work that well in my buddy's BCL, and vice versa.

Stag 10 Non-restricted semi auto in 6.5 Creedmore

The Stag 10s have been all the rage since before they came out, and some say, these have destroyed the market for the likes of the BCL102 and even the ATRS Modern Hunter.  I'd already build up a BCL102, but it was plagued with issues because it was anyone's guess what parts would fit and what parts wouldn't.  The ATRS rifles weren't problem free either, and those were mega bucks compared to the 102.

Along comes Stag Arms, who have been in the business for a significant amount of time, and QC and performance issues are pretty much non-existent for this company, unlike it's two competitors.  The entrance fee for the Stag wasn't horrendous, so I figured I'd jump on one.  My buddies Alex and Mark were at a PRS match in Merritt recently and in the gas gun category, there were about ten Stag 10s and a lone 102....no Modern Shotguns.  Not a single Stag 10 had issues during the entire match, all shot under sub-moa.  The 102 belonged to Alex, and we already knew his shot exceptionally well, but it was certainly not because it came from the factory like that.  That being said, I think he did mention his had one failure to eject and that was it.

Anyway, I figured it was probably time to get one, despite already owning a BCL102.  I decided to get the Stag 10 in .308.  Yes, I know what the title of the post says....it says 6.5cm....I'll get to that.

Inside the cardboard box was a hard case with a Stag sticker on it.  The case might be made by Flambeau or something like that, certainly nothing to write home about, but still, it was a nice touch.

I got the version where it came with no furniture at all, but all you really needed was a hand guard, grip, stock and glass and I was ready to rock and roll.  I have a huge bin of spare parts so I figured I could go this route.

This model comes with a heavy profile barrel, standard A2 flash hider, and mil-specish trigger.

It also came with some of the parts to finish off the lower once I installed my grip on it.

The finish on these are far superior my the BCL102.  The 102 is like your anorexic girlfriend who's far too skinny and has really pointy elbows.  Not exactly a pleasure to fondle.  The Stag on the other hand has smooth surfaces and edges, the receiver sets are anodized so you know the aluminum was hardened in the process.  There were also little to no machine marks as compared to the 102.  The 102s were apparently Cerakoted instead of anodized, so the aluminum is softer and prone to damage.  Have I mentioned I hate handling my 102 because of all the pointy edges?

The BCG and charging handle also appear to be superior to BCL's offerings.  The finish is better (the roll pin on the 102 charging handle was actually crooked on mine).

Decently staked gas key.

The trigger that came with the .308 version felt like any mil-spec trigger.  It wasn;t very smooth, but I was confident it would work, and nothing would break.  The rest of the internals felt pretty solid as well.  Have I mentioned that I broke a bolt release in my 102? 

M4 feed ramps

Standard A2 flash hider...just bigger to accommodate the .308 round.

I had a few ambi selector switches as well as a QD sling plate.

Nothing wrong with the factory sling plate, it's just that it's kind of ugly.

BCM QD rear plate.

Anyway, I've built enough ARs to swap it out.  

Dug out a spare Ergo grip out of the spare parts bin.

So that was my Stag 10 lower complete, along with a Magpul stock from my spare parts box.

All I needed was a hand guard......but then I started thinking.....about the 6.5cm version.  Damn....it wasn't much more, but I got a muzzle brake, 6.5cm stainless heavy barrel, as well as a better trigger.  But I already had a 6.5cm with my 102.....

I ended up stripping everything off again and I was back at Reliable to exchsnge my unfired Stag10 in 308 for the 6.5cm. Version for a bit more.

I decided I could always part out my 102, or switch it to a .308.

The brake that came with the 6.5cm version.

Looks like it's part comp too.

Maybe it's just me, but the barrel on the 6.5cm version seems beefier than the .308 version.  My buddy Alex J. had a good argument for the .308 version, that in a SHTF scenario, .308 ammo will probably be more readily available compared to the 6.5cm.  I guess I figured I already have enough rifles in .308, both in bolt gun and in semi auto, so I decided for a couple of bucks more, I wanted the brake and better trigger, along with that massive heavy barrel.

The trigger is a two stage one, not as good as most after market ones (Timney, Triggertech, Geiselle), but smoother and lighter than a standard mil-spec trigger.

Oh, the 6.5cm version also comes with an enhanced trigger guard, which resembles the Magpul one.

I ordered a Midwest Industries 15" handguard for .308 DPMS pattern rifles, however I neglected to order the right height.  I ended up with a .150 upper tang, but I think I was supposed to order a .210 version.  I installed it anyway, and I think I'll just live with it, I don't need a continuous rail anyway.

The gas block was easy enough to remove, as if Stag was anticipating the owner to yank it.

I decided to go with a spare LMT stock I had from my spare parts box and my Bushnell HDMR.  I tried my Vortex Razor HD2, but that think is just way too heavy to lug around.

The rifle doesn't look half bad, and I'm fairly confident it will shoot amazingly well.